Nuerological conditions significantly increase someone to consider suicide.

People diagnosed with MS are twice as likely to commit suicide then the general population, with in 2 years post stroke the risk is also twice as high, ALS, Dementia and other neurological diseases. Some have a plan, some don’t, there is plenty of help out in the medical community, but getting the patient to admit they are depressed is the first hurdle, Then the Doctors want to medicate and medicate you until you are no longer you. Some of the Antidepressants actually cause you to want to commit suicide, I know from experience myself, a medication given to me called Savella made me want to commit suicide, but at least I could recognize something was wrong and I called my Doctor right away, only with the response of well we have a entire list to try so don’t get discouraged.

There are a few red flags, someone talking about suicide or actually attempting suicide but their is no real profile and sometimes asking questions to the patient doesn’t help because they think there fine or won’t admit their feeling suicidal. Family and friends should be specially concerned if there loved one has a neurological disorder. If a patient is depressed and suffering from anxiety they are even at a higher risk. If you add substance abuse or drug use and it increases even more.

When a patient starts a new prescription, this is usually the time to watch them closely, It may motivate them to do things they normally wouldn’t do. Doctors should not only treat the depression but understand the neurological disease the patient has. The two go together and the key is knowledge. This type of patient should be monitored by the Doctor more closely.

Isolation is a very big contributor to depression and suicidal tendency’s. Impulse control- neurological diseases can cause patients to loose their impulse control. This can also add to the risk factor of suicide. Frontal lobe dysfunction adds to the lack of impulse control. The Frontal lobe is considered to be the CEO of the brain.

Certain Hospitals and come up with Risk score assessment forms for different neurological conditions.

Getting the patient to see a trained psychiatrist that actually understands your disease, If your friend or loved one speaks of suicide bring them to the Emergency Room or call 911.

As family and friends it’s important to try to lead this patient to job, their dog, grandchildren-something to distract from the darkness they are living in. Stay close, try to get the patient out into socializing and out of the house. You need to recognize their frustrations, Don’t just say ” Don’t do that, You have so much to live for”. You must acknowledge their feelings and thoughts, make them your safe place to come to talk to about their feelings, that’s how you will know what’s really going on. Building trust with out judgement. Take the conversation of suicide seriously, encourage engagement, patients like myself feel like our lives have been taken away from us, we no longer serve a purpose but now are a burden, Help them get involved in organizations, support groups, non profits so they can feel good about them selves. Keep guns out of the house period. If a firearm is used the death rate is 85%, Pills, and cutting themselves are less likely to work.

Talk to the patient if guns are to be removed explaining it’s because they love you. Not as a punishment and if you feel the patient is in imminent danger, call 911.

Suicide has a stigma, that needs to be addressed, knowledge spread and shared. Below you find information on Suicide.

1-800-suicide or1-800-784-2433

suicidology.org 202-237-2280 This is the American Association that can help families that are dealing with a family member that committed suicide or someone who has survived suicide. there support programs are the following: suicidology.org/suicide-survivors/sos-directory.

American foundation for suicide prevention: afsp.org 1800-273-talk. 24 hour hotline with trained personal as well as books, forums, you can also get names of support groups in your area.

Suicide Awareness voices of education (SAVE) save.org,9529467998, they have booklets and other resources for survivors of suicide loss and a searchable data base for support groups.

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  1. This one I had to think about before I replyed, to be up front and start this off right, because going to be hard for me.
    In the past, I attemed suicide 4 times, because of depression. Now dont take this wrong but people dont take depression seriously enough, everyone has some level of depression, tgunk about it, when something happens, like getting truned down for a loan, or anything you feel is important to you, you get dlwn in the dumps, or feel alittle hurt, or what ever you wa t to call it, then what do you do next, dont feel like talking about right away, or be alone for a while. After hours or a day or two your fine and back to you. Thats a small depression state, that you just had.
    Now there are some people like myself who thought was stronger then I really was never looked at it like it was. All the way through high school I felt people were laughting at me, always looking at me in a strange way, I started believing there was something wrong with me, my self esteem was at all time low. Full of negitivaty most my life, I felt if I thought positvitlly about something and it did not, then it hurt bad but it I thought negitivaty about it and it truned out bad no biggy, not knowing what this was doing to me in later years. Of course I did not talk to anyone anout my feelings, back then we were told men dont do that or cry. Anther wrong in my life.
    Now people think that people like me were stupid for being this way but did not understand depression, you see it today in bullying, they pick on kids like I was, why because there different, in what ever way they see them.
    Yes we are different in the way we think, once your told all your life your funny looking, or your colths dont match, or your shoes are out dated or no girl would ever want to be with you, it could be a number of things. You start to believe they must be trun, this sends you in to a nother level of depression, one thats a little deeper in your mind as well something you think about a lot more.
    You start avoiding people not just the ones who say this things but others, now your circle of froends gets smaller, as well keeps going until your alone, then your called a loner, anit socials, then you go in to anther level of depression because you know there right. When any of your froends that you had ask you whats wrong or why you dont hang out any more, you always give them an excuse, like been busy, alot on your mind anything but the truth, because you dont want to be laughed at or called stupid or told get over it.
    You begain to believe that no one is friendly enough to talk to, so you do what is known as stuffing, if you cant emangin what this is, take a paper bag and stuff it full of anything, keep stuffing untl the bag brakes, this is what happens to your feeling, thats when suicide becomes a level of danger, anything can set it in mostion.
    Mine losing a girl I really liked and though she really liked me but being rejected is what set mine in mostion, I felt worthless, less of a man, not good looking enough, what ever, then the though of not being here was best for all, you stop thinking about other peoples feelings, friends family, it dose not matter any more, just thought of making there lifes better by dieing.
    I wish I could tell people how to help people like me but if I had that answer I would be a lot better then I am. Depression is a life long battle, it nevers gose away, and nothing can take it away, but you can change your thinking which with help the battles each day get easier.

    1. Dear Waverly,
      I am so sorry you have dealt with depression all these years, I know what its like! It makes reality difficult to figure out! Depression is so silent and we feel so alone even in a room filled with people, its not all the peoples fault in the room, its our perception of what people are thinking or saying, when its really our perception of our self. But that being said, we develop these perceptions from our experiences in life with how people treat us, or lie to us, use us, make fun of us, or tell us we are only capable of a certain thing. Not only did I have stuff, baggage from my past but from a previous spouse, dates that I wasn’t good enough!.. And I was lucky to be with them and even that wasn’t enough I had to undergo plastic surgery in order to marry one man, that didn’t go so well with me. But years of peoples narcissistic behaviors time and time again do bring you to a level that you are not worth anything. Then take away the one thing I loved, taking care of others was taken away by my disability and I promised myself as a little girl, I wanted to help people, I never wanted to use looks or money or anything other than my heart to get through life, my way was by taking care of others. It made me feel like I had a purpose and now that is gone, Now what, who am I? I am a burden to those around me. When my brain is not working right, like yesterday washing clothes in telex, I feel stupid worthless and I get so mad at myself, I will force myself to do things I am not suppose to do and have consequences but I feel I deserve them. Its strange how the mind works and peoples words, comments, actions make our selves feel, I feel it is so important to surround yourself around people that are positive, that don’t put you down, but lift you up, now don’t get me wrong, life is no bed of roses and I keep asking the man upstairs why me? But Its just life, And we get to choose how we deal with it. but sometimes when we are so beaten down, there is no rose garden, there is no sunshine, I find that journaling helps me at least release these thoughts and being involved with non profits so If I can help one person, I am still worth something. I am writing my book, to help others understand out invisible illnesses including depression so people, family, friends, Doctors can understand what our lives are like and try to understand. I also color, I know that sounds silly, but drawing and coloring takes my brain away from what I am feeling and my photography, my savior. It’s become my best friend, So people can see how I see the world. I am always here Waverly, always!!!! We got each others backs.

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